. >> i love when they bring this up during the hagel hearing and they talk about sequestration, and they go the witness and talking about what a disaster sequestration would be for the defense budget. if you just arrived from another country or mars you would be like who are the monsters who came up with the sequestration idea? who could have possibly voted for this thing? it is the people sitting that crafted it. >> the ironies speak like a birthday cake. unfortunately, we have to leave it there. we are out of time. >> can we kick the can? >> we are going to kick the can down the road. do not forget to catch chris and paul krugman this weekend. "up" is on tomorrow and every weekend and sundays with host at 8:00 a.m. eastern. chris hayes, thank you, as always, and thanks to the rest of our panel. franklin, carrie, and hans. that is all for now. i'll see you back here monday at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when i'm joined by ari, jonathan, jake, and lee gallagher. if you are snowed in or not, i'll be doing my best impression of lawrence o'donnell tonight when i guest host "the last wor